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Hi! Hermes

Here is an article I wrote to Mike

Ok! guys, I have pulled in some of my favorite researchers here for this discussion. All of this dialog centers around my wandering dissertation titled What is Heat written back in the mid 90s for KeelyNet. The main understanding derived from paper is the fact that heating is caused by positive ionization of a mass. The object becomes hot due to the ejection of lattice electrons which manifest as photons in the IR band of energy.

Cooling is just the opposite in that as a mass gains electrons it becomes cold due to electron packing in the atomic lattice. This explains the formation of ice at the phase change of water at 0 C. The electron packing causes a molecular re-configuration of the fundamental structure of water. If taken all the way down to absolute zero, the electron packing will reach total saturation (gross negative) and all Browning motion ceases for there is no mean free path for electrons to move. Tesla understood this concept for he was fascinated with the Linde Liquid Air production. Tesla's thoughts were of a superconducting primary coil. IBM Corp got involved with superconductivity in solid state circuits and ran into Tesla at the Patent process.

Simply put, if you negative ionize a mass it will go cold. If you ionize a mass positive it goes hot. The argument of which has more energy arieses since we are lead to believe that heat is more energetic that cold. That means the holes in an atomic lattice has more power than a lattice packed with electrons. ?? Tesla totally understood the power of a cold sink.

Mick asked how to make ice in the desert. Simple, for on totally clear skys over the desert at night, the gross radiation into space of IR photons, emitted by a near perfect black body radiator plate will reach temperatures far below the ambient air. It is the rapidity of the thermal loss that causes the plate to go to a gross negative state, cold.

Vantablack. A surface coated with this will make ice under clear desert skies at night due to the super emission of IR photons into the cold sink of outer space. Remember! That at about 60,000 ft. We have the lowest temperature before the inversion takes place.

Please not the boundary at troposphere into stratosphere where temperatures have reached the minimum then start climbing. This stratosphere base is the cold sink receptor for the emitted photons in the IR band.

Thermosphere - overview _ UCAR Center for Science Education

Mick, Your quote " Black on one side silver the other and flip it at an asymmetric duty cycle You perfectly described one of Tesla's favorite toys, Crooks Radiometer, which really fascinated Tesla over just how it works.

Your comment on collecting the energy of phase shift from plasma state back to gas state (gross over-unity) has to be done with the dielectric media vs large capacitor plates. Please understand dielectric displacement is where energy (charge is stored). Just as we are learning about how thermal junctions work, we learn that we need a material that has a super high electrical stand off coefficient and at the same time is a perfect thermal conductor.

Electrical conductivity vs thermal conductivity. Put some thought into that statement for this is your ion pump. In my paper I discuss the age old paradox in Thermodynamics in Chemistry (TEXT BOOK) where there is clear and carefully studied phenomenon of excess energy at the phase change of water from gas to liquid states. If you study the phase change from a plasma back to a gas state you will find an order of magnitude of excess energy at this phase change point. This is where we get into the magnetic flux annihilation re-connect studies that yield the EMP that is Magneto-Electric (cold electricity).

Structure of a Magnetic Flux Annihilation Layer Formed by the Collision of Supersonic, Magnetized Plasma Flows,

MAGNETIC FIELD CREATION: DYNAMO THEORY

Structure of a magnetic flux annihilation layer formed by the collision of supersonic, magnetized plasma flows

Plasma classification (types of plasma)

The Earth's Plasmasphere

Italian National Research Council

Cold plasmas are those with Te >> Tgas. It is obtained in low pressure discharges or in short pulse discharges as Dielectric Barrier Discharges or ns discharges.

Hot plasmas, or better thermal plasmas, are those with Te~Tgas. It is produced in plasma torches or in high pressure discharges. The time of the discharge must be quite long, in order to have equilibration between the electron gas and heavy particles.

From the point of view of deposition both plasmas are used, but with different substrates and for different applications. The uniformity depends on your plasma device and on the size of the deposition area.

Usually in cold plasmas, also ions can play an important role. As an example ion bombardment is used for the so called plasma etching. In any cases there is a lot of literature on this subject, and there Over unity in Plasma to Liquid phase shift!

Norman Wootan



Hi Norman,

Thank you very much for your information on negative and positive ions.

"If you study the phase change from a plasma back to a gas state you will find an order of magnitude of excess energy at this phase change point. This is where we get into the magnetic flux annihilation re-connect studies that yield the EMP that is Magneto-Electric (cold electricity)."

Do you mean that a negative ion phase change between plasma and gas is overunity? If that is true it explains the Alexander V. Chernetsky plasma generator:

http://gratisenergi.se/sparkgap.htm

http://gratisenergi.se/chernetsky.pdf

Best Wishes, Hermes

P.S A free energy converter that converts heat directly to electricity is ideal because of global warming.

P.S My friend Simon Derricutt said that the 100 watt Floyd Sweet VTA magnets got 10C cooler than the surrounding temperature.



Hermes!

"Precisely correct"!

BTW! The letter from Hal Puthoff about the "grain of wheat bulb" test of the MRA ended with a statement that "I'll be out of country"! Puthoff was on way to visit and test the Chernetsky Device!

Norman Wootan



Hermes!

Bob Paddock: Bert Pool gave me the article from Scientific American about the "Satellite Killer" using phase conjugation pumping with lasers and barium titanate crystals. When you bounce a laser beam with a "tuned wedge" mirror so that the retraced path is 180 degree out of phase to the incoming beam there is total "cancellation" but energy cannot be destroyed , existing in new form. This energy is directed toward target via the Barium crystal.
All under the tital of "Optical Phase Conjugation"!
Tom Bearden got into the four wave mixing!

Norman Wootan



Hi Simon,

What are your opinions about Rosemary Ainslie heater?

http://gratisenergi.se/heat.htm

Read Counter Electromotive Force Enables Overunity Results In Electric Systems by Rosemary Ainslie and Donovan Martin

http://gratisenergi.se/heater.pdf

Best Wishes, Hermes



New Hi Hermes,

The estimation of power dissipated by the resistor was by looking at its temperature rise, by the look of it. Not that accurate. When you're looking at a few watts, some unexpected air movements can change the temperature quite a bit.

As a basic thing here, when you're dealing with spiky waveforms it's difficult to measure the power in them. Any errors on timing in measuring the instantaneous voltage and current will change your integral of the power you think you're measuring. Also confounding things is that drawing power in short pulses from a Lead-acid battery will change the battery chemistry and show you a different apparent charge state than it shows under a constant load of the same actual average power.

Basic idea here is that the risk of bad measurements here is extremely high, and I'm not seeing any reasonable path to any breaking of symmetry here so I think the excess power seen was a result of the difficulties in measuring this stuff.

How to fix that: use a water-bath for the resistor and measure the rate of heat rise of a set amount of water, and use a DC power supply with a good capacitor for smoothing so you can measure the power taken at DC rather than AC. If you put in enough effort in getting rid of the sources of error, I'd expect there to be no anomaly found.

In general, pulsed power draw or charge from a battery can give you a mismatch between what you think the battery charge-state should vary and what you measure it to have varied using a battery-capacity test. In reality, the capacity of a battery isn't as fixed as normally stated, and depends on what parts of the electrodes have the charge. It's complex. It's also fooled a lot of people into thinking their design is producing more energy out than is put in. After some time of producing more power out than in, it stops working as it did before, though nothing has changed in the circuit.

In general, not really a good path to go down.

Best regards, Simon



New Hi Simon,

Read about the new measurements on the Coutier Transformer at the end of the webpage:

http://gratisenergi.se/hubbard.htm

Why is the voltage double at the output coil when the input coils have the same turns?

It is a input 1+1= output 1 turns transformer.

and do you understand the principle behind the Baltzar von Platen perpetual motion machine?

http://gratisenergi.se/vonplaten.htm

Best Wishes, Hermes



New Hi Hermes,

Note that Fig. 29 is in fact wrong (magnetisation graph for soft Iron). That's a picture of what happens if you start with the Iron demagnetised carefully, whereas when you're running AC through the coils you get the normal hysteresis curve. Look it up.

No idea why a 1+1 to 1 transformer put out twice the voltage you put in, unless of course you connected the two output coils in series. There simply isn't enough information about what you did to explain the result. Note though that such arrangements of coils are used in commercial designs, and any OU would have been noticed if it happened. Thus pretty certainly you're not going to achieve anything extraordinary with this. I've no idea about how Hubbard could do the trick and fool people, but you really have to ask how the frequency happened to be exactly grid frequency when there's nothing shown that regulates frequency.

For the Von Platen patent 4084408 it looks like he's also found the sneaky bit of physics where liquids/gases that are fully miscible at normal gravity/accelerations can be separated without doing net work once you put them under high accelerations (centrifuge, for example) if their density is different. Thus once you can get the cycle to steady state, you can produce a Maxwell's Daemon that really works (takes no work to separate molecules into hotter and colder and thus gives you free heating or cooling). He doesn't really explain it simply, but it's a sequence of equilibrium situations where for each one it's being pushed away from equilibrium by the previous process in a different location (and thus is moving towards equilibrium which takes no input power), and where as it moves towards its own equilibrium it outputs something that disturbs the next equilibrium situation (in the next location) in the cycle. There can be two or more processes in the overall cycle, and in general *something* will continuously move around that cycle, maybe changing phase (as it does here). Yep, this is actually Perpetual Motion, driven by the varying response of that fluid to the field or pseudo-field applied. Centrifuges produce a pseudo-field, near-enough to real gravity to do the same job in the process.

Note that if you do a one-off centrifuging of a mixture of fluids to get the densest one at the outer radius, that does take work as the moment of inertia of the centrifuge increases during that settling. If however you have a cycle where as much mass is going outwards as is coming inwards during the centrifuge operation, so there's a steady state of mass distribution and a constant moment of inertia, it then takes no work (apart from bearing loss and drag).

I haven't dug too deep into the Von Platen processes, but just look at the really high pressures and g-forces he's proposing - though it would probably actually work it wouldn't be easy to make or cheap. Best thing to take from that is the logic of the processes, and figure out how to make it work at more-reasonable conditions. Though Phil and I didn't know about Von Platen, we're using much the same principle in his heat-pump but we only need a few thousand g in the centrifuge. Might get it running at lower g-force, too - there are some other sneaky bits of physics that can aid condensation to happen more easily. See

AU2024200773

for detail (though Phil doesn't explain the principles simply there, he does give enough detail to make something work).

For Von Platen's patent 1669269 it's a simple absorption refrigerator. I presume you don't need that explaining.

Best regards, Simon



New Hermes!!

I have some "interesting" input into this subject of Centrifuges. When I applied for "International Patents" for the "Process for Producing Hydrogen"

https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en

All was going very smoothly with all countries approving submission except Japan. I had extensive "dialog" with examiner over another Patent Application that utilized centrifugal forces for gas seperation. (Similar Patent to mine). I had to "tutor" examiner about Victor Schaubergers "Implosion Vortex" which works "Inversely" to the normal Centrifugal action. My Patent utilizes Centripital (Implosion Vortex) just as Ranque originally used this phenomenon to separate gasses with very close densities. The "Examiner" read my references and agreed that my process was unique and different. Now we get into Laws of Thermodynamics.

http://gratisenergi.se/maxwell_demon.pdf

http://gratisenergi.se/ranque_hilsch_vortex_tube.pdf

Vortex tube - Wikipedia

My Patent utilizes the "Implosion Vortex" (Centripital) where the heavy gasses seperate and move to the center "counter flow vortex" and the lighter gasses move to the outer Vortex envelope, "Totally Counter" to conventional centrifugal forces. I used this method to separate Hydrogen from Carbon Dioxide in the Hydrogen Reactor properly. "Heat Energy", can we say???? Concentration from "Low to High"!!! It is a fact of life!!!

"BTW"!!! In the news is all about Iran "Enriching Uranium" using High RPM centrifuges. Many thousands to separate isotopes based on minute differences in density. (Mass). There is a "tremendous" difference in "efficiency" between "Centripital" vs "Centrifugal" gas separators. "They have not been "educated", YET!!!!!

Hope this helps explain the "phenomenon"! Here is "Conventional Process"!

Gas centrifuge - Wikipedia

My Process is far more "efficient"!

Norm



New Hi Simon,

Can Maxwell's Demon in a Ranque Hilsch Vortex Tube give free energy? To seperate gases in a hot (+200C) and cold (-50C) end takes compressed air. But compressed air needs electricity and is it possible to use both the hot and cold end in a Heat Engine so it gives out more energy than input?

Best Wishes, Hermes



New Hi Hermes,

You may have misunderstood what a Maxwell's Daemon really is. Separating a fluid into hotter molecules in one place, cooler ones in another place, can be done with a heat pump. Normally, to make the heat pump work, we need to put work in, so the essential distinguishing feature for a Maxwells's Daemon is that it does this separation without any work being put in to do that. It may need work put in for other purposes such as moving the fluid around to shift that heat difference somewhere else, which will clearly need work to be done.

For the vortex tubes that give a hot and cold output stream, you need to put in work to compress the air, and this drives the effective heat-pump of the vortex tube as well as shifting the hotter and colder air out in different directions. It's not a Maxwell's Daemon, just a heat pump subject to the usual Carnot limits.

If you test putting a heat engine between the hot and cold sides, you'll find you don't get as much power out from the engine as you need to put into the compressor to get the temperature difference. If that was OU, and you could make something that runs itself that way, it would have been manufactured a long time back because it's pretty obvious. Of course there's a problem with real heat engines, in that they only approach the Carnot limit and generally only gives you maximum of around 80% of a perfect Carnot engine, so your heat production needs to be significantly OU before you could make a system that was overall OU.

For Norman's patent, it's lapsed so looks like he couldn't get someone to use it. The reason people want to use Hydrogen is to avoid producing CO2, but here clearly you're getting the CO2 right at the start so you'd still be paying the Carbon Tax. The process he's shown should be cheaper than electrolysis otherwise, but the taxes would make it more costly. I haven't spent any time studying Schauberger, so can't really comment on the efficiency there. I presume he's tried it and it works. The output Hydrogen won't be that pure, though, and likely would need filtering through hot Palladium foil. Since in fact all the Hydrogen would need to pass through that foil (which stops any other gases passing through), there's actually no real gain from pre-separating the other gases from the Hydrogen. Could explain why no-one wanted to use his patent - not enough better than the process they were using.

I've no idea as to whether Schauberger's ideas can give better separation of fluids of slightly different density. You'll need to find someone with experience in actually running separation.

Best regards, Simon

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