Over Unity Direct Current Motor



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Mick, Ole, Kone etal! I have been thinking a lot about my Locked Rotor experiments and did a lot of reading to come up with a fool proof Lenz free motor/generator combination which is so easy to build and proof test! First of all you should read what we know as facts! See the following articles:

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Kone loves to play with the very powerful Neos as found at K&J Magnetics and shown in the video of the Ray's LENZ free generator. What I will propose is very simple application of DC motor principles as read from the cited references. First you make your LENZ free motor which is in reality a LINEAR MOTOR (Solenoid) which will give the necessary stroke length to drive the LINEAR generator (Coil oscillating within the drag free, LENZ free area of the Neo magnets). Stroke of the solenoid is controlled by Hall sensor and IGBT drive switch to give an excursion rate (stroke) at a frequency of 60 HZ. By using a DC pulse to drive the solenoid coil it is tricked into being in LOCKED ROTOR condition, thus no LENZ effect. Has the light come on yet?? We know that Ray's generator puts out a sine wave output (AC) with no LENZ drag. Following the DC motor principles as applied to the solenoid driver, you have a motor that is LENZ free also. The combo should give an Over-unity output. Now the tricky part! We know as Ole will agree in that when you switch the solenoid power to off state as magnetic flux is building toward saturation there will be a huge voltage spike (Neutral Spike) which we have to capture and not send to ground as ordinary practice in solid state switch design (snubber diodes) The capture of the SPIKE energy (HV) which occurs naturally will be the over-unity factor here! Interesting concept! Think about it! Norm Mick! (accumulator HV caps)!



Hi Simon,

What do you think about using the collapsing magnetic field from the drive coils as extra high voltage energy to drive the brushless dc motor? Read the link:

Ron BRANDT OverUnity Permanent Magnet Motor

http://rexresearch.com/brandt/brandt.html

on:

http://gratisenergi.se/dcmotor.htm

Best Wishes, Hermes



Hi Hermes,

What do you think, when the plans are available (both charged for and free) and we don't see people using them or selling them?

Though there is some asymmetry in back-EMF because of the limited speed of light, you could only see it using low-inductance loops because the speed of light is very high and thus any asymmetry will only be measurable for nanoseconds. Thus exploiting that asymmetry is going to need high frequencies or edge-rates (in the GHz region probably), high currents (because your impedances are so low), and a fair amount of thought to actually be able to exploit that very-small effect and get a result large enough to measure - and more effort still to figure a way to get something that's actually useful.

When you see a claim for OU, and it's been around for a few years and the plans of how to make it have been published, you can figure that a number of people have tried to make it work too. If it really worked, they'd be using it and telling their friends that it worked, and their friends/family would either be getting gifts or making their own systems. Thus you'd have a lot of proof that it actually worked.

If that proof isn't there, after 30 years or more, what are the chances it does actually work?

Best regards, Simon



Hi Simon,

When I had finished my 2 year electronics and electricity school. I started a one-year correspondence electronics course and only in that course did I learn that when you stop magnetizing an electromagnet, it reverses polarity and can initially emit a higher voltage than what was supplied to it at the beginning. But that this voltage decreases much faster and that the output power is the same minus losses in the demagnetization.

John Bedini's free energy inventions used the same discovery. That the voltage at the start of demagnetization is higher and thus the output power is higher to charge a battery. The downside is that it doesn't deliver more energy than was needed to magnetize it.

https://tesla3.com/bedini-john-annexes/

claims that it is only half the discovery and that certain frequencies charge the batteries with cold electricity which is converted to warm electricity when loading the batteries.

Best Wishes, Hermes



Hi Hermes,

When you switch off the charging current of a coil the inductance means that this current will try to continue to flow and the voltage it produces depends on the impedance it's trying to drive. Thus why you put in a low forward voltage diode if you want the current to decay slowly, and otherwise choose the impedance you supply depending on what you want to do. The voltage produced is not limited except by the impedance it sees, so you easily get sparks if you use a gap as insulation.

Thus you're seeing things wrong looking at the voltage the coil produces. You've put a certain amount of energy into the magnetic field that will come out again somewhere, and you've got a current running that will not stop instantly and will charge any capacitance (which there always is) to a voltage that is in reverse to the initial voltage such that it acts against the current too. If that voltage exceeds sparkover, you'll get a spark.

Coils are about current. The voltage is dependent on that current.

As regards things that happen at certain frequencies, there is always capacitance so you'll get resonances that may or may not be wanted. Looks to me that most mentions of "cold electricity" are actually just where there's a phase difference between voltage and current,thus giving apparent power not real power. At resonance, the voltage and current are 90° phase difference, giving zero real power (actually not quite 90°, and some loss in resistances).

Note that John Bedini never actually produced any system that could run itself, let alone run something else too. Take that into consideration when you're reading his theories about how things work. That is, it might sound clever, but it's not the way the universe works because if it was then he'd have succeeded in making something that ran without needing an external power source.

Do the same with anyone else's theories, too. Is there an actual example of something that works? That is, can it run itself, and can it run itself and something else, without needing a battery (or where it charges the battery continuously and the battery doesn't go flat after some time) or connection to some other power supply.

Best regards, Simon



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